October 15, 2005

"How to build a kegerator" FAQ

I get quite a few questions in e-mail about the kegerator I built (documented with photos here), so I thought it was time to throw a FAQ together. Here it is:

  1. What model refrigerator did you use?

    I used the Sanyo 4910M, but the 4911M (a more recent model) is the same, at least for kegerator purposes. As of this writing, it looks like Sanyo has gone to the 4912M, which looks the same kegerator-wise as the prior two models.

  2. Did you remove the freezer portion?

    No -- the nice thing about the Sanyo 4910M or 4911M is that there is no freezer portion. It's all refrigerator.

  3. What are the dimensions of your kegerator?

    It's 4.9 cubic feet and 21 3/8'' x 33 3/4'' x 22 3/4' (W x H x D)

  4. Can you fit a 1/4 barrel (or "pony keg") in the Sanyo?

    I've never attempted this, but there's a thread over at the Northern Brewer forums that suggests that you can.

  5. My brother-in-law gave me an old refrigerator and I'm thinking of drilling a hole in it for a tap and making my own kegerator. What do you think?

    First, beware of brothers-in-law bearing gifts. He might just be trying to pass the dumping cost over to you. When drilling a fridge, be careful. The cooling coils inside the fridge run in different places on different fridges, and the trick is drilling without hitting them. I used the Sanyo because it was relatively well-documented. I don't actually know what happens when you hit a cooling line in a fridge. It can't be good.

  6. I notice you have an external thermostat on your kegerator. Does this just tell you what the temperature is or does it actually control the temp? How important is it to have?

    First, the external thermostat I use is the Ranco Electronic Temperature Controller, found here. It works really well. This thermostat tells you what the temperature is inside and also controls the temperature. It tells you the temperature via a wire sensor that you leave in the refrigerator (when the door closes, the wire is thin enough that the fridge will still close). To control the temperature, you plug the refrigerator into the thermostat and plug the thermostat into the wall. Think of the thermostat as an extension cord that knows when to turn the fridge on and off to keep it at the right temperature that it reads via the wire sensor attached to it (you just keep the fridge on the coldest setting the whole time).

    Keeping the temperature at a certain level is important in home brewing because it affects the level of carbonation. Basically, when you force carbonate using a CO2 tank, you set the pressure on your kegs based on the temperature of the beer and what level of carbonation you want (stout is less carbonated than pale ale, for example). After the beer is carbonated, you also want to keep the CO2 pressure at a certain level when you're dispensing it, or you will carbonate the beer more, or maybe let it go flat. (If all this sounds complicated, it's a lot less complicated than it sounds.)

  7. The kegs in your kegerator look odd. What are they?

    The kegs are "soda kegs" (because they are the same kind used to dispense soda), sometimes called "Cornelius" or "corny" kegs. You can get these kegs at most home brew shops or order them online. Don't buy new kegs -- you will be wasting your money. The used ones are fine.

  8. What different configurations can you fit inside your kegerator?

    I have only ever set up my system in three ways:

    1. two 5 gallon soda kegs with an extra-small CO2 tank (I think about 2 lb. -- but not 100% sure) in the door of the fridge. This small tank was more expensive than the typical 5 lb. tank but it allows me to keep the CO2 inside with the two kegs.

    2. one 5 gallon keg with a 5 lb. CO2 tank inside

    3. one 5 gallon commercial keg with a 5 lb. CO2 tank inside. The 5 gallon commercial kegs I've tried are just slightly shorter and wider than the Corny keg, but enough that you can't put two of them in the kegerator (or even a commercial keg and a Corny keg).

    Of course, you could drill a hole somewhere in the fridge and supply the CO2 from the outside, but I haven't attempted that. I don't think it's difficult. I just like mine to be self-contained because it looks less messy in the kitchen.

    One other consideration is that you need different fittings for your tap if you use a commercial keg, usually a "Sankey" tap. This is the kind of tap you're probably used to with commercial kegs. I bought the Perlick Low Profile System "D" Low-Boy tap for this purpose because space is tight. If you get a regular Sankey tap, it might be too tall to fit.

  9. What size hole cutter did you use to drill the hole for the tap? What size drill bit did you use? What kind of sealant?

    Size of the hole cutter: you know, I don't quite remember, but it was the kind you would use to cut a hole in a door for a doorknob. Really, the hole only needs to be big enough to push the two beer lines through it (if you have a dual tap. . . and you should!)

    Drill bit: I used a bit that was slightly smaller than the screws I was using (can't remember exactly)

    The sealant was clear silicone. Since it's hidden from view, I think you could use just about anything.

  10. My question is regarding sealing the wood to the top of the fridge. In your documentation it shows you sealing the wood to the plastic, but are you also applying sealant to the wood block that would seal it to the metal top of the fridge?

    Yes, I used the sealant liberally on both sides of the wood.

  11. Where did you get that awesome double tap?

    I got the double tap from the Oak Barrel, my local homebrew store here in Berkeley, CA. The tap itself is pretty standard, but the handles are what makes it special. You can buy handles like mine at northernbrewer.com. Take a look at this page. . . . and look for "Changeable-Label Tap Handles".

  12. How much money did all the materials cost?

    About $350 (fridge, tap, tap handles, drip tray). But drilling a hole in a refrigerator was a priceless experience.

Posted by Chad Dickerson at October 15, 2005 04:12 PM
Comments

Hi,

I am building a kegerator for my boyfriend for Christmas. I think I am in over my head yet I still want to try it. First, you said you bought everything for $350. I can not find all that under $300, not including a $200 fridge, any help? Should I buy a keg conversion kit? What exactly do I need? 2 keg taps, 2 hoses, 1 double faucet tower, a 2.5 co2 tank, external thermostat, nuts and bolts and a drip tray? that all. of course 2 soda kegs and a fridge. Please help, I will happily send you pictures of me making the keg, you'll like them and it will add a little chick appeal to the website.

Thanks for the help in advance,

Monique

Posted by: Monique [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 17, 2005 12:36 AM

If anyone is interested, there is another end of the spectrum for kegerators. Very high end and highly fabricated kegerators called Craigerators.

Check them out. www.craigerator.com They are truly pieces of art!

Craig

Posted by: Craigerator [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2005 09:49 PM

I am wanting to build a kegerator out of a compact refrigerator but I am having trouble finding on that is deep enough to hold a 1/4 barrel.(all I want is one that will handle a 1/4 barrel not a 1/2 barrel)Does anyone know of a make and model that will work it needs to be 17" wide by 17" deep at least.
thanks
Rob W.

Posted by: Rob [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 5, 2006 03:02 PM

First I would like to thank you for your insperation on making my own kegerator. I used a Whirlpool Galdiator refrigerator. H.H. Gregg had them on sale for $200 and I couldn't find a good source for the Sanyo. But the Galdiator works great. It comes with wheels and a removeable top. I purchased a keg stand from Danby ($21.50), that fits in to hold the 1/4 keg over the compressor hump. I also had a stainless steel sleeve to trim out the tower hole. I would be more than happy to provide pictures upon request. All I need to add is a drip pan and I am just waiting for the right deal on one. For now the rubber bar mat that I purchsed from Coors will have to do. One word of caution if you plan to use a USED regulator no matter what test it prior to connecting it to a keg. I guess that wouldn't be bad advice for a new one also. I found that you can destroy a keg of beer with to much pressure.

Posted by: Blderby [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 12, 2006 03:09 AM

Hey Chad, do you think that it would be possible to fit 2 corny kegs and a 5 gal tank inside if you took the panneling off the door? Also do you have a second regulator so you can control the PSi of each keg, im sure something like lets say...Blue Moon and Miller lite would need different PSi. Nice set up, very clean.
Jason

Posted by: DuffMan99 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 17, 2006 02:55 PM

I would like to use a refrigerator in a basement workroom to house 2, 1/4 kegs. Co2 would be outside refrigerator. What I expect to do is run beer lines from the refrigerator over about 12 feet to a corner cabinet in the kitchen on the floor above. The beer spouts would be located there in the kitchen, rather than at the kegolator, which is the only configuration I have found on the web. Do you see any of this as problematic? The only hitch I see is that the 12 foot run wouldn't be refrigerated - but, maybe even that is feasible. (They would, at least, be insulated.) Thanks for posting my question. Here's hoping for some helpful input.

Posted by: roydallasmd [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2007 09:50 AM

Thanks for the advice, it's been very helpful. I've built one of these myself now, and you can fit a regular 5lb CO2 tank in with 2 Cornelius kegs, if you put it on the hump behind them. I plan to build a shelf to hold it up where I can access it without moving the kegs next.
I've read elsewhere (http://www.courtlandsystems.com/kegerator/) that you can fit 2 sixtels in a 4912 if you chop the door a little.

Posted by: Epee_Gnome [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 11, 2007 06:50 AM

just mentioning that a kegolator dose not have to be mint. i used to work for sears and I saw $2000+ fridges with tiny dents for $800 to $1500. ask for dented ones (get a ding repair kit) ask for missing knobs (your using a thermostat) ask for floor models (wash it out... theraly) its an easy way to save.

Posted by: lucek [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 01:10 AM

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